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		<title>By: Jeff Davis</title>
		<link>http://thoughts.j-davis.com/2009/07/30/wordpress-and-postgresql/comment-page-1/#comment-180</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, great!

I&#039;ll give it a shot. I may start hosting it myself soon, which would be a good opportunity to try it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, great!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll give it a shot. I may start hosting it myself soon, which would be a good opportunity to try it.</p>
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		<title>By: Hawk__</title>
		<link>http://thoughts.j-davis.com/2009/07/30/wordpress-and-postgresql/comment-page-1/#comment-173</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawk__</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 19:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow ! How strange :)

I&#039;ve just noticed this post which you published just one month after I published the first release of my &quot;plugin&quot;  to allow using WordPress with a PostgreSQL.

Maybe you&#039;d like to give it a try ?

You can find it in the WordPress plugins directory :

http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/postgresql-for-wordpress/

Just a note : for now the development version is the only one to support WordPress 2.9.1 until I have enough feedback about it working in different setups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow ! How strange <img src='http://thoughts.j-davis.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve just noticed this post which you published just one month after I published the first release of my &#8220;plugin&#8221;  to allow using WordPress with a PostgreSQL.</p>
<p>Maybe you&#8217;d like to give it a try ?</p>
<p>You can find it in the WordPress plugins directory :</p>
<p><a href="http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/postgresql-for-wordpress/" rel="nofollow">http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/postgresql-for-wordpress/</a></p>
<p>Just a note : for now the development version is the only one to support WordPress 2.9.1 until I have enough feedback about it working in different setups.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://thoughts.j-davis.com/2009/07/30/wordpress-and-postgresql/comment-page-1/#comment-118</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>apologies, I got the address wrong. The right URL is http://habariproject.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>apologies, I got the address wrong. The right URL is <a href="http://habariproject.org/" rel="nofollow">http://habariproject.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://thoughts.j-davis.com/2009/07/30/wordpress-and-postgresql/comment-page-1/#comment-117</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Jeff,

Habari works with MySQL, PostgreSQL and SQLite and it&#039;s developed by people who get blogging (ex-Wordpress fans).

http://habari.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Jeff,</p>
<p>Habari works with MySQL, PostgreSQL and SQLite and it&#8217;s developed by people who get blogging (ex-Wordpress fans).</p>
<p><a href="http://habari.org/" rel="nofollow">http://habari.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Document Scanning Washington</title>
		<link>http://thoughts.j-davis.com/2009/07/30/wordpress-and-postgresql/comment-page-1/#comment-109</link>
		<dc:creator>Document Scanning Washington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wordpress is having great features like importing all the required data which is very helpful retrieving the data. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WordPress is having great features like importing all the required data which is very helpful retrieving the data. <img src='http://thoughts.j-davis.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rob Wultsch</title>
		<link>http://thoughts.j-davis.com/2009/07/30/wordpress-and-postgresql/comment-page-1/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Wultsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 06:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howdy,

I think you are oversimplifying what people expect from publishing systems. Consider &quot;Tags&quot; and site analytics which are generally quite relational in implementation. 

Full text search on myisam is very much out of favor by power users as it is fairly slow and not particularly tunable. Sphinix is a popular alternative and there is a MySQL interface with Sphinix which allows to MySQL to make use of its far superior implementation. 

From the work I had done with WordPress I get the feeling that the developers don&#039;t want to think all that much about relational theory. Turning on the general query log while installing WordPress make some of the ugliness of the system visible. 

Cheers,

Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howdy,</p>
<p>I think you are oversimplifying what people expect from publishing systems. Consider &#8220;Tags&#8221; and site analytics which are generally quite relational in implementation. </p>
<p>Full text search on myisam is very much out of favor by power users as it is fairly slow and not particularly tunable. Sphinix is a popular alternative and there is a MySQL interface with Sphinix which allows to MySQL to make use of its far superior implementation. </p>
<p>From the work I had done with WordPress I get the feeling that the developers don&#8217;t want to think all that much about relational theory. Turning on the general query log while installing WordPress make some of the ugliness of the system visible. </p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Rob</p>
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		<title>By: How to Bring Import and Export Back &#171; Experimental Thoughts</title>
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		<dc:creator>How to Bring Import and Export Back &#171; Experimental Thoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 04:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Christopher Browne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Browne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another benefit to PostgreSQL support would be TOAST...
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.4/static/storage-toast.html

I think TOAST would be *enormously* helpful for a &quot;large text field&quot;-oriented application like WordPress, from three perspectives:

a) Compressing the large text columns should diminish I/O considerably

b) Compression reduces the overall footprint of the database, and should reduce memory usage, too

c) By separating the &quot;big text&quot; bits into TOAST tables, queries that don&#039;t actually access those bits will fit *wildly* more tuples into each page (of disk/memory), and be spectacularly more efficient</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another benefit to PostgreSQL support would be TOAST&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.4/static/storage-toast.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.4/static/storage-toast.html</a></p>
<p>I think TOAST would be *enormously* helpful for a &#8220;large text field&#8221;-oriented application like WordPress, from three perspectives:</p>
<p>a) Compressing the large text columns should diminish I/O considerably</p>
<p>b) Compression reduces the overall footprint of the database, and should reduce memory usage, too</p>
<p>c) By separating the &#8220;big text&#8221; bits into TOAST tables, queries that don&#8217;t actually access those bits will fit *wildly* more tuples into each page (of disk/memory), and be spectacularly more efficient</p>
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